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Bob Watson

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Re: Mexico to Havana 1849
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2013, 03:09:04 PM »
I'll summarise what I've found so far including Spuff's very helpful remarks:
  • It may have been docketed August, but the Franqueado Mexico postmark [YB M19] is clearly Oct 14. Manuscript "4" on back for double rate Mexico-VCZ (101-200 leagues).
  • British consular coat of arms on back; Vera-Cruz Oct 17 [YB BP11] British consular postmark; Paid at Vera-Cruz in crowned circle [YB BP12]; red [paid] 2/– double rate for carriage on British service to Cuba;
  • Red Empressa Indias / 30[?] Oct 1849 Cuban marking; red “6” reales double rate. Sea carriage on RMSP Teviot Departed 18 October 1849 via Tampico & Mobile, arriving Habana 30 October.
I'm looking into having the cover archivally repaired where a scrawl in ink has etched through the paper. There's no indication of what might have been there.
Bob

Martin "Spuff" Spufford

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Re: Mexico to Havana 1849
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2013, 04:04:19 PM »
Thanks Bob,
It arrived this morning and much of what I said below is incorrect!!!
It makes a big difference to have the item "in hand".
Back to you to-day with a written description covering all markings etc and shipment via Veracruz Tampico and Mobile to Havana.
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Martin "Spuff" Spufford

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Re: Mexico to Havana 1849
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2013, 04:39:42 PM »
Dear Bob,
I see the docketing is dated Mexico 10th August 1849!!
 
The "3" rating is indeed The internal Cuban rate .See Heath page 56.
 
The RMSP Teviot departed Tampico on 23 Oct 1849 arriving Havana 27th. Kenton and Parsons page 96.
 
No records for VC arrival and departure dates.
 
Maybe you could drop it in the mail to me in Auckland and I can take a closer look at it.
 
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Mexico to Havana 1849
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 04:16:46 PM »
I need help with the rates on this cover. There appears to have been a second sheet originally included which now is absent, so I can’t provide dateline information. Postal markings are: Franqueado Mexico / Octre 14 [Y-B M19] in red, the British consular handstamp “Consulado Britanico” (but said by Schimmer & Heath to be “known used 1861”), Consular Vera-Cruz / 1849 / OC 17 [Y-B BP11] and Paid at Vera-Cruz [Y-B BP12], and a red Cuban “Empresa Indias” [30?] Oct. 1849. Rate markings include a red handstamped “6”, manuscript "4" on back, “2” and “3”. I believe the “3” is a Cuban marking. Can anyone explain the rates? Help with any other aspects also would be appreciated.
Bob
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