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Jean-Claude

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Re: PACHUCA Medio 1st Period cancelled on JUL 21 1865 ?
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2015, 06:25:11 AM »
Hello Manuel, the only Pachuca invoice in 1865 with a medio is 124-1865 but none of these numbers appear on the stamp I have, so that is the answer then since it is after 99-1865. Thanks for your help. JC

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Re: PACHUCA Medio 1st Period cancelled on JUL 21 1865 ?
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2015, 06:16:32 AM »
Thanks Martin, 25/8/13 was too early for me with respect to medio eagles search. But thanks for the info and congratulations for the price realized. JC

Martin "Spuff" Spufford

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Re: PACHUCA Medio 1st Period cancelled on JUL 21 1865 ?
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2015, 10:36:48 PM »
For your information Jean-Claude the 1st period brown Pachuca used at Mexico; I sold it for 426$ on 25/8/13.
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Manuel Iglesias

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Re: PACHUCA Medio 1st Period cancelled on JUL 21 1865 ?
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2015, 11:09:27 PM »
Jean-Claude,
99-1865 is the consignment number of the Mexico District where the Year started to show in the Mexico City cancel, so that consignment was sent June 16, 1865 and for that reason any Mexico City cancel with Year was on or after that date.Another thing to remember: All medio reales Eagles from the First period are Brown like yours and Spuff's.Further more, some Districts including Pachuca have stamps from First period with late uses like in 1865 or even 1866 years, so things become more complex but with time and practice you will understand them.Best regards,Manuel.

Jean-Claude

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Re: PACHUCA Medio 1st Period cancelled on JUL 21 1865 ?
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2015, 06:26:28 PM »
Thanks Martin, will this genuine 1st period appear in your forthcoming sales ? However this does not explain what my Pachuca is ? According to Manuel it is after 99-1865, so ??? Thanks Manuel

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Re: PACHUCA Medio 1st Period cancelled on JUL 21 1865 ?
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2015, 10:22:59 PM »


Jean-Claude,In regards to Mexico District Eagles the Year slug started to appear with consignment 99-1865 (June 16), the earliest date on my collection is June 18,1865.Best regards,Manuel.

Martin "Spuff" Spufford

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Re: PACHUCA Medio 1st Period cancelled on JUL 21 1865 ?
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2015, 02:34:09 PM »
Of course this is a MEXICO district cancel. See Pietsch note 1 page 263

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Re: PACHUCA Medio 1st Period cancelled on JUL 21 1865 ?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2015, 02:30:51 PM »
Jean-Claude,
Here is a medio from Pachuca from the 1st period (9-1864). Note no year date in the cancel and the colour is brown.
Hope this helps.
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Re: PACHUCA Medio 1st Period cancelled on JUL 21 1865 ?
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2015, 05:49:36 PM »
In fact I now wonder whether this is really a First Period stamp ? The cancellation date 21 July 1865 and the stamp color which is purple rather than brown makes me wonder; however I see now trace of an invoice number ... I would appreciate an advice on this. Thanks

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Re: PACHUCA Medio 1st Period cancelled on JUL 21 1865 ?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2015, 04:34:45 AM »
Thanks Pete, I was concerned that it meant "cannot exist in that period". I feel better now.

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Re: PACHUCA Medio 1st Period cancelled on JUL 21 1865 ?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2015, 02:56:20 PM »
The "0" means that is one of the most common cancels from that Office and has no premium attached to it.

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PACHUCA Medio 1st Period cancelled on JUL 21 1865 ?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2015, 01:12:48 PM »
Can you tell me whether the cancellation type Shz 1120 dated JUL 21 1865 is OK on this Medio PACHUCA first period; Shatzkes indicates O for 1120 on Eagles ? What does that mean ? -o- value for this cancellation on Eagles ? Thanks in advance.